Jacque Moodley and Ryan Whyte sat down with writer, poet and awkward human, Bernice Puleng! They chatted about how they got into advertising and where it's taking them. They discussed the pressure to be in a limitless creative mindset whilst having to work within a constrained corporate system. We recorded offsite for the first time, hosted by Marea Lewis and her awesome team at Toasted on Jan Smuts. This is the final episode of bleed season 2 and possibly the last episode of bleed interviews, depending on if our sponsors renew us (we don't have any sponsors, so buy a shirt on www.bleedadvertising.com to support the show).